Thanks for the update! Given your track record and history, I trust your dreams as well as I trust my divinations, Pat. I am happy to keep him on the list, and in fact I will consider this an official update.
Regarding prayers for innocent Ukranian conscripts, it may be that Gonzalo understands that doing so would runs against the guidelines of this particular prayer group. The Ecosophia Prayer List follows JMG's guidelines for ethical prayer, which includes consent as a necessary ingredient. When it comes to groups, this means only praying for groups to which participants belong. If a Ukranian joins the list, or someone else who reasonably feels themselves intimately connected with the situation, and requests that we pray for innocent Ukranians, that would be a different situation.
This particular ethical question is a tricky one and I am certainly willing to carefully listen to other arguments with different points of view and revise my view of it if convinced. But lines must be drawn somewhere, and in this case that's where I've currently set the lines for this group, as I created it to serve members of the Ecosophia community, and to uphold what I understand to be the ethical values of JMG, the man around which that community formed.
(Please note that I do not mean at all to suggest that this is or should be a universal moral value, e.g. that it is definitely wrong to pray for innocent people to whom we are not particularly connected except by shared humanity. Everyone should make such judgments for themselves.)
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Regarding prayers for innocent Ukranian conscripts, it may be that Gonzalo understands that doing so would runs against the guidelines of this particular prayer group. The Ecosophia Prayer List follows JMG's guidelines for ethical prayer, which includes consent as a necessary ingredient. When it comes to groups, this means only praying for groups to which participants belong. If a Ukranian joins the list, or someone else who reasonably feels themselves intimately connected with the situation, and requests that we pray for innocent Ukranians, that would be a different situation.
This particular ethical question is a tricky one and I am certainly willing to carefully listen to other arguments with different points of view and revise my view of it if convinced. But lines must be drawn somewhere, and in this case that's where I've currently set the lines for this group, as I created it to serve members of the Ecosophia community, and to uphold what I understand to be the ethical values of JMG, the man around which that community formed.
(Please note that I do not mean at all to suggest that this is or should be a universal moral value, e.g. that it is definitely wrong to pray for innocent people to whom we are not particularly connected except by shared humanity. Everyone should make such judgments for themselves.)