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Feb. 24th, 2022 04:50 amThis was originally started as a question to post on JMG’s Ecosophia Open Post of 2/24/2022, but it just kept growing… and growing… and growing…
So I edited the question down to a more reasonable length, but linked this blog for any that might be interested in the whole version, which summarizes much of interest that can be found on a website called “Reincarnation Research”.
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JMG,
I no longer remember how I found it-- I wasn't searching the subject-- but a couple of weeks ago I stumbled across a website called "Reincarnation Research", which purports to report on past or current life identities of celebrities, all verified by "the Spirit Guide Ahtun Re reading the Akashic Record/Mind of God, channeled through live medium Kevin Ryerson" (if you consider that a trustworthy source). I don't intend to ask you whether or not this is a reputable source, and I'm not entirely sure myself, but I must say I find the past life matches on the site fantastically entertaining. And strangely plausible, in most cases. If this spirit medium is to be relied on:
--Mary Shelley was William Shakespeare, and most recently August Wilson
--Kurt Vonnegut was Mark Twain
--Carl Jung was Johann Wolfgang Goethe
--Bob Dylan was Richard Wagner
--Peter Gabriel was Gustav Mahler
--Trent Reznor was Frederic Chopin
--Barry Manilow was Lotte Lenya
--Buckminster Fuller was Leonardo Da Vinci
--Alex Grey was William Blake
--Ram Dass was Walt Whitman
--Christopher Paolini was J.R.R. Tolkien
--Alma Deutscher was Richard Strauss
--Stephen King was Bram Stoker
--Isaac Newton is currently Queen guitarist Brian May (who got an astrophysics PhD late in life)
--Freddie Mercury was both Rabindranath Tagore and Giacomo Puccini
--Malala Yousafzai was Helen Keller
--Ron Paul was Patrick Henry
--Lin-Manuel Miranda, who wrote the musical "Hamilton", was Aaron Burr, who killed Alexander Hamilton
--Martin Luther King was Cinque, leader of the Amistad rebel slaves (who also included Jesse Jackson and Malcolm X)
--Somewhat hilariously, Francis Fukuyama was Karl Marx
--The Marx Brothers reunited as the cast of 2007 hit comedy "Superbad"
--The Three Stooges reunited in the "Harold and Kumar" movies
--Laurel and Hardy are now brothers who are, respectively, a successful children's entertainer and a successful jazz singer/saxophonist, and whose chances at fame in this life as comedians (which was their first career attempt) may have been hindered by the fact that they realized it and said so in public
--Danny Kaye was Richard Tarlton
--Chance the Rapper was Louis Armstrong
--Azealia Banks was Sarah Vaughan
--John Legend was Nat King Cole
--Jimi Hendrix was Charlie Christian and Chevalier de Saint-Georges
--Herbie Hancock was Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart (and Wayne Shorter was Leopold Mozart)
--Thelonious Monk was Johann Sebastian Bach
--Paul McCartney was Antonio Vivaldi
--George Harrison was Heinrich Ignaz Franz Biber, and is currently teenage "America's Got Talent" winner Grace VanderWaal
--The most famous person John Lennon had previously been was Branwell Bronte (brother of the Bronte sisters), but Julian Lennon was Felix Mendelssohn
--(Alas, Ringo Starr was not listed)
--The next time someone says they were Cleopatra, refer them to New York Senator Kirsten Gillibrand
--Vladimir Putin was Platon Zabov, Emperor Francis II, and Julius Caesar
--Ted Cruz was Joseph McCarthy
--Donald Trump was Roman Emperor Nero, Ivana was his first wife, and Melania was his sister
--Joe Biden was Theodosius I, who presided over two civil wars and was the last Roman Emperor to preside over its entirety before its permanent split into east and west
Okay, I definitely shared way too many there. It's hard to stop once you get started sometimes. I have to admit I found them generally plausible enough to get a little bit addicted to the site. Sometimes I was revolted by the incarnations listed-- J.K. Rowling was Charles Dickens? Greta Thunberg was Rachel Carson? Wes Craven was Edgar Allen Poe? Jay Leno was Moliére? Angela Merkel was Catherine the Great? John Kerry was Andrew Jackson? Beto O'Rourke was Robert F. Kennedy? If so, then how the mighty have fallen! But even though these cases raised an eyebrow, it occurs to me that the same seed planted in vastly different conditions will grow to different heights.
It's also noteworthy that several of today's celebrity giants were identified only as very minor people, for which a historical record exists but nobody today will have heard of them. For instance, Taylor Swift was Florence Reece, an obscure Tennessee singer-songwriter who at the age of 12 wrote a song while her father was on a coal miners' strike, that ended up being recorded by Pete Seeger; and Michael Jackson was Charles Dassoucy, a singing member of Moliére's traveling theater troupe who self-styled himself "The Emperor of Entertainment". Likewise, greats of the past are often living a more subdued life today-- for instance, Nikola Telsa is identified as Saul Perlmutter, an astrophysicist who won the Nobel Prize in 2011 but is hardly a household name.
Another interesting aspect to the reincarnations claimed on the site is that split incarnations-- having some overlap between two incarnations of the same spirit-- are relatively common, and even true splits where both incarnations have quite a large overlap, while less common, still seem to happen from time to time. For instance, Modest Mussorgsky (1839-1881) and Jean Sibelius (1865-1957), given as split incarnations, lived at the same time for 16 years. Presumably, this might also be an artifact of the modern increase in human population.
JMG, in general the reincarnation lore that the site shares is more or less in line with the esoteric occultism/druidic cosmology you have shared here before. One exception is that according to the Spirit Guide Ahtun Re humans don't reincarnate as animals. However, this statement was in answer to a question about that, and I wonder if the negative reply may be in part due to how the question was posed; if at this point in history there are simply too many human bodies, it may be that humans never become animals but that the reverse can may still be true. Once human population starts to noticeably decrease, I wonder if Ahtun Re would give a different answer.
Beyond that the biggest issue may be the one of spiritual ascension. If I understand your cosmology correctly (and please correct me if I’m wrong), one can ascend not only by becoming a “saint”, but also by becoming a “hero”, which is to say, able to effect great change in the world through the virtue of becoming completely oneself. Now there are some names listed on that website which are awfully old and famous. For instance, there’s Cleopatra (New York Senator Kirsten Gillibrand); there’s Archimedes (space technology bigshot Steve Isakowitz); there’s Akhenaten (Vaclav Havel).
1. Does your view of incarnation have space for people this grand to still be hanging around in human incarnation? Could they have just amassed huge amounts of karma in their most famous lives, and it’s taken them thousands of years to work off?
2. Also, if I understood something you wrote at some point a while back, you seemed to indicate that when somebody becomes sufficiently revered after their death, then even if they would otherwise normally be jumping back into incarnation soon, they don’t do so for a while because they become so busy with the duties that come with being an object of mass adoration. Do I have that right? For instance, if Mozart has been revered as a god among composers more or less continuously since his death, does that mean that he couldn't possibly have reincarnated into Herbie Hancock, as the site suggests?
(If a conversation ensues, I will share it here as well.)
So I edited the question down to a more reasonable length, but linked this blog for any that might be interested in the whole version, which summarizes much of interest that can be found on a website called “Reincarnation Research”.
_____________________
JMG,
I no longer remember how I found it-- I wasn't searching the subject-- but a couple of weeks ago I stumbled across a website called "Reincarnation Research", which purports to report on past or current life identities of celebrities, all verified by "the Spirit Guide Ahtun Re reading the Akashic Record/Mind of God, channeled through live medium Kevin Ryerson" (if you consider that a trustworthy source). I don't intend to ask you whether or not this is a reputable source, and I'm not entirely sure myself, but I must say I find the past life matches on the site fantastically entertaining. And strangely plausible, in most cases. If this spirit medium is to be relied on:
--Mary Shelley was William Shakespeare, and most recently August Wilson
--Kurt Vonnegut was Mark Twain
--Carl Jung was Johann Wolfgang Goethe
--Bob Dylan was Richard Wagner
--Peter Gabriel was Gustav Mahler
--Trent Reznor was Frederic Chopin
--Barry Manilow was Lotte Lenya
--Buckminster Fuller was Leonardo Da Vinci
--Alex Grey was William Blake
--Ram Dass was Walt Whitman
--Christopher Paolini was J.R.R. Tolkien
--Alma Deutscher was Richard Strauss
--Stephen King was Bram Stoker
--Isaac Newton is currently Queen guitarist Brian May (who got an astrophysics PhD late in life)
--Freddie Mercury was both Rabindranath Tagore and Giacomo Puccini
--Malala Yousafzai was Helen Keller
--Ron Paul was Patrick Henry
--Lin-Manuel Miranda, who wrote the musical "Hamilton", was Aaron Burr, who killed Alexander Hamilton
--Martin Luther King was Cinque, leader of the Amistad rebel slaves (who also included Jesse Jackson and Malcolm X)
--Somewhat hilariously, Francis Fukuyama was Karl Marx
--The Marx Brothers reunited as the cast of 2007 hit comedy "Superbad"
--The Three Stooges reunited in the "Harold and Kumar" movies
--Laurel and Hardy are now brothers who are, respectively, a successful children's entertainer and a successful jazz singer/saxophonist, and whose chances at fame in this life as comedians (which was their first career attempt) may have been hindered by the fact that they realized it and said so in public
--Danny Kaye was Richard Tarlton
--Chance the Rapper was Louis Armstrong
--Azealia Banks was Sarah Vaughan
--John Legend was Nat King Cole
--Jimi Hendrix was Charlie Christian and Chevalier de Saint-Georges
--Herbie Hancock was Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart (and Wayne Shorter was Leopold Mozart)
--Thelonious Monk was Johann Sebastian Bach
--Paul McCartney was Antonio Vivaldi
--George Harrison was Heinrich Ignaz Franz Biber, and is currently teenage "America's Got Talent" winner Grace VanderWaal
--The most famous person John Lennon had previously been was Branwell Bronte (brother of the Bronte sisters), but Julian Lennon was Felix Mendelssohn
--(Alas, Ringo Starr was not listed)
--The next time someone says they were Cleopatra, refer them to New York Senator Kirsten Gillibrand
--Vladimir Putin was Platon Zabov, Emperor Francis II, and Julius Caesar
--Ted Cruz was Joseph McCarthy
--Donald Trump was Roman Emperor Nero, Ivana was his first wife, and Melania was his sister
--Joe Biden was Theodosius I, who presided over two civil wars and was the last Roman Emperor to preside over its entirety before its permanent split into east and west
Okay, I definitely shared way too many there. It's hard to stop once you get started sometimes. I have to admit I found them generally plausible enough to get a little bit addicted to the site. Sometimes I was revolted by the incarnations listed-- J.K. Rowling was Charles Dickens? Greta Thunberg was Rachel Carson? Wes Craven was Edgar Allen Poe? Jay Leno was Moliére? Angela Merkel was Catherine the Great? John Kerry was Andrew Jackson? Beto O'Rourke was Robert F. Kennedy? If so, then how the mighty have fallen! But even though these cases raised an eyebrow, it occurs to me that the same seed planted in vastly different conditions will grow to different heights.
It's also noteworthy that several of today's celebrity giants were identified only as very minor people, for which a historical record exists but nobody today will have heard of them. For instance, Taylor Swift was Florence Reece, an obscure Tennessee singer-songwriter who at the age of 12 wrote a song while her father was on a coal miners' strike, that ended up being recorded by Pete Seeger; and Michael Jackson was Charles Dassoucy, a singing member of Moliére's traveling theater troupe who self-styled himself "The Emperor of Entertainment". Likewise, greats of the past are often living a more subdued life today-- for instance, Nikola Telsa is identified as Saul Perlmutter, an astrophysicist who won the Nobel Prize in 2011 but is hardly a household name.
Another interesting aspect to the reincarnations claimed on the site is that split incarnations-- having some overlap between two incarnations of the same spirit-- are relatively common, and even true splits where both incarnations have quite a large overlap, while less common, still seem to happen from time to time. For instance, Modest Mussorgsky (1839-1881) and Jean Sibelius (1865-1957), given as split incarnations, lived at the same time for 16 years. Presumably, this might also be an artifact of the modern increase in human population.
JMG, in general the reincarnation lore that the site shares is more or less in line with the esoteric occultism/druidic cosmology you have shared here before. One exception is that according to the Spirit Guide Ahtun Re humans don't reincarnate as animals. However, this statement was in answer to a question about that, and I wonder if the negative reply may be in part due to how the question was posed; if at this point in history there are simply too many human bodies, it may be that humans never become animals but that the reverse can may still be true. Once human population starts to noticeably decrease, I wonder if Ahtun Re would give a different answer.
Beyond that the biggest issue may be the one of spiritual ascension. If I understand your cosmology correctly (and please correct me if I’m wrong), one can ascend not only by becoming a “saint”, but also by becoming a “hero”, which is to say, able to effect great change in the world through the virtue of becoming completely oneself. Now there are some names listed on that website which are awfully old and famous. For instance, there’s Cleopatra (New York Senator Kirsten Gillibrand); there’s Archimedes (space technology bigshot Steve Isakowitz); there’s Akhenaten (Vaclav Havel).
1. Does your view of incarnation have space for people this grand to still be hanging around in human incarnation? Could they have just amassed huge amounts of karma in their most famous lives, and it’s taken them thousands of years to work off?
2. Also, if I understood something you wrote at some point a while back, you seemed to indicate that when somebody becomes sufficiently revered after their death, then even if they would otherwise normally be jumping back into incarnation soon, they don’t do so for a while because they become so busy with the duties that come with being an object of mass adoration. Do I have that right? For instance, if Mozart has been revered as a god among composers more or less continuously since his death, does that mean that he couldn't possibly have reincarnated into Herbie Hancock, as the site suggests?
(If a conversation ensues, I will share it here as well.)
